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Re: LD collaborative cantaloupe
Well cool -- sounds like a few people are interested ......
I've posted the individual loops on my site, at:
www.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_0.wav
www.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_1.wav
www.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_2.wav
www.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_3.wav
The
drum loops are short, the chords and bass line are both longer ... and
they are uncompresed wavs, so they do take a few seconds to download
......
Here is a flat mix of all the loops together....
www.aaronleese.com/music/cantanloop/cantaloop_mixed.wav
if
anyone would like something different (like a mix of just the drums and
bass, say ...) just post and let me know and I'll add that too .....
Ok
...... go to it ..... feel free to mix or adjust the loops in any way,
and just let me know when you have something ... I'll stitch what
people send me together and post the final product in a week or so
......
happy looping ----
AL
From: "Stephen Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:13 PM
To: aaronleese@flyloops.com
Subject: Re: LD collaborative cantaloupe
Sounds fun, I could do various kinds of guitar
loops to go with it. :)
SP Goodman
From:
"aaronleese@flyloops.com"
<aaronleese@flyloops.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10,
2008 10:10 AM
To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: LD
collaborative cantaloupe
So I was working with a looped
version of cantaloup island the other day, and it occured to me that it would
be really easy to send out the loop (as one or several .wav files) to other
loopers and get each of them to add a solo ......
I was thinking we
could do this with five or six of us and each person could generate a solo
that is one or two times through the progression ......
Then send your
work back to me and I'll edit it all together. Sort of a quick way to
get a collaborative work together.
Anyone up to it?
You can hear
what I put together yesterday at www.aaronleese.com ..... just click on
cantaloup island in the player. Naturally, I won't keep that much of my
own soloing in the collaborative work ... probably just once through the
progression for me. The melody is in F minor, but feel free to
take the solos where-ever you like.
From: "aaronleese@flyloops.com" <aaronleese@flyloops.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)ha ... nice reflection. I won't differ with you on the whether musical randomness reflects our every day experiences in some higher way ......
Instead, I think we can agree that .....
randomness is a beautiful thing when harnessed correctly .....
But I think that with any advanced looping device (say, one with multiple loops that have independent frequency controls mapped to individual midi knobs) ...... it becomes pretty easy for the musician to generate randomness using the loop tool as an instrument. That being the case, I see no need to write a computer function to do so ...... though getting a program to generate randomness does a lot to drive home the whole metaphysical point of chaos(the sound) out of order(the computer generating the sound) out of chaos(the world) out of order(the world too) ... which is cool on a philosophical level.
From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)
Cool. :) Actually, we've moved from a
potentially OT topic to an actually looping topic. What I sent Todd were
just max pitch shifting patches...nothing looping oriented. But anytime a
looper can do interesting pitch gymnastics, that is a good thing in my
book!
So you think randomness makes a mess?
I feel when it is harnessed appropriately, it can be a beautiful thing. It
reflects the reality of the world, pockets of choas framed within order, the
fact that we can't control everything in life, etc. Now we're really on
OT, but a while back I would have been horrified by the idea of my computer
doing things for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You could have
called me a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure.
Now, with my unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate job, 3
year old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable schedules, I look
forward to playing music and relinquishing some control and
predictability. It creates a nice balance for me.
Kris
----- Original Message -----
I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for me, I
can do that myself. Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playback
speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between. The semitone
buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you want to
shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.
In the case of building a
chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three tracks, then
shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7
semitones(the fifth).
You can also stack while tweeking the
playback speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the
audio (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording and frequency
shifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying,
stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....
and yes, multiple tracks
can be shifted by different amounts at the same time. You can map it all
to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time
.....
flypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid that
hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.
any other
questions?
From: "Krispen Hartung"
<khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 10,
2008 8:57 AM
To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch
shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)
But can you randomly change pitch, control the
speed and range of randomness (or make that random), pitch change down to the
decimal point (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with
multiple pitch changes simultaneously? :) Ever heard of Fly
Paper? :)
Kris
-----
Original Message -----
Flyloops can do pitch shifting too .....
there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed"
panel. You click that button a few times til you get it up to where
you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then click the
loop track you want to shift by that amount.
You can also click the
"tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift the
pitch only by semitones.
I should note that this is a
frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds up
playback. If the loops are set to sync (default), they will repeat
early to stay in time with the master.
See the screenshot and
interactive demo at:
http://www.flyloops.com/demo/If you have a PC,
download here:
http://www.flyloops.com/download.htmwait about a
week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on the
webpage too .... I'm a bit overdue for that one.
From: "todd reynolds"
<toddreyn@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09,
2008 12:25 PM
To:
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pitch
shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)thanks, Kris,
anxiously await!
please just make sure I can understand your
ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know...
!
t.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung
<
khartung@cableone.net>
wrote:
Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just
talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including
one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very
Evantidish.
Kris
Hey
all,
I'm throwing this out there for our max
mavens...
My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I
need it for... TOMORROW...
damn.
so here is my
predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter
which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.
is there
any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with
two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great
which you'd be willing to send me? I have to play single notes and
have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real
time.
thanks in advance for any support you might
give.
and best to all.
Todd
--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist
Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force
The Bang on a Can
Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.
http://blog.toddreynolds.com
--
In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven
Koplowitz on his work, Task Force
The Bang on a Can Institute follows
in North Adams at MassMoCA.
http://blog.toddreynolds.com