RE: feedback buster for nylon string

["William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com>]

Great Trick Krispen, I'll have to try that sometime on my flamenco guitar..
Unfortunately for you Luis, The mics goose neck might get in the way of 
that
technique as would a feedback buster. You might inquire at this site, they
are based in San Francisco and are all about classical guitars.
http://www.gspguitar.com/jsp2/customerService.jsp?pg=main , I've looked for
a long time for a classical hole sized feedback buster, and I'm not sure 
any
one makes one. I assume your controls are on the outside.  My feeling about
internal mics, is the less used the better :)  The thing is, you are using 
a
tiny inexpensive microphone capsule that is getting much less current (9
volts) than a typical studio condenser mic (18-48 volts typically), it is
also placed inside the sound hole facing the back of the guitar which in
itself is going to give a boxy "old time radio broadcast" sound character,
and be more feedback prone. To design a microphone of this type, they have
to design certain frequency response out of the mic to make it less 
feedback
prone, as well, making the sound more low fi, and further away from the
optimal mic sound, and  placement in a controlled studio environment. I ran
in to this problem with the Duncan Mag mic Pickup that I use in my Hawaiian
lap guitar. I can only use a little mic to add a bit of body, otherwise the
guitar will start to feedback, and will be come overly noisy to handle. Now
if I was Lawrence Juber, and had the $700 dollar custom mic cabsule
installed in my MagMic like he does, perhaps I'd use it more.
 The other issue is monitoring, if you are using conventional monitors I
would definitely place them on stands, as any time I use my flamenco or
steel string with monitors placed on the ground in a conventional way, I
have problems with bass standing waves, and coupling feedback. I have been
recently demoing the new Fishman tower linear speaker design that is 
lighter
weight and almost a third the price of the Bose system. Yesterday I was
playing a Guild cutaway nylon string with a simple fishman matrix pickup.
This is a solid wood guitar made in China, and I sat right in front of the
speakers as I played and we turned it up enough to fill the store, but we
were up perhaps half way. NO feedback issues at all. Now I couldn't
guarantee that for you if you were using an internal mic, and I'm pretty
certain the fishman lacks any of the Bose search and destroy feedback
technology, But the linear array design is remarkable for not producing as
much midrange and low end howling. I will do some tests with a Martin that
has a prefix premium system and let you know how it fairs. Otherwise a
little goes along way with internal mics. Just a bit will give the guitar
more body and potential for beat box tones on different surfaces, without
increasing handling noise too much.
Happy New Year one and all
Bill

















-----Original Message-----
From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:38 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: feedback buster for nylon string

The best method I have ever used, is to buy a black balloon, and blow it 
up 
inside the sound hole (not too tight, just enough to seal off the sound 
hole).  Tie it off and turn it around so that you don't see the end. It is 
amazing, and costs about 3 cents. :)   I learned it from an old jazzer 
years

ago.

Kris

----- Original Message ----- 


> Hi Loopers,
> Is there a feedback reducer for nylon strings like the feedback buster 
> that covers the soundhole for steel string guitars? my recently acquired 
> flamenco guitar has the fishman Prefix Premium Blend with the internal 
>mic

> and is very sensitive to feedback,so far i havent found anything that 
>fits

> the soundhole of a nylon string.However the feedback buster solved all 
> problems on my steel string,great and simple gadget!
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> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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