Re: Sooperlooper or Mobius? Going back to software.

["L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

Per,sorry misread your post as "dry only" you meant the looper set to "wet 
only" offcourse thats how i have it, see i need more coffee;-)
yes i am still battling a bit with the latency issue,sometimes it feels 
godd and sometimes it doesnt seems as responsive,i am using the presonus 
firebox through the mixers aux.When i use the EDP i route it the same way 
yet it does seem more responsive(though a bit more noisy) so it might have 
something to do with the firebox soundcard.
cheers

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--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Sooperlooper or Mobius? Going back to software.
> To: labaloops@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 6:07 AM
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, L.Angulo
> <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > oh,wait a minute,i use a mixer and put mobius or the
> EDP in the monitor send and return to a channel,
> 
> Yep, that's how I prefer to do it as well.
> 
> > when you say you put loopers on a submix bus and set
> to no dry signal is your sound sorce like guitar
> > being output also on the same channel as the looper
> is?
> 
> No, not if you mean the same mixer channel. If I have a
> mixer I route
> the guitar amp into channel 1. On channel 1 I tweak the
> Effect send 1
> to send. From the mixer's Effect Output 1 I throw a
> cable to the EDP
> input. EDP mix knob set all way right, only wet signal,
> only loops.
> From EDP Output I throw a cable to the mixer's Channel
> 2 Input.
> 
> In software in-the-box looping rigs I do the same routing. 
> But
> instead of the physical mixer I route signals digitally
> inside the
> software.
> 
> You should be careful to make statements on latency of a
> particular
> software, like Mobius in this case. Main part of latency
> that affects
> your sound is caused by the audio interface's AD/DA
> conversion and by
> software plug-ins that you may use. There can also be a
> loop latency
> in software looping, but only if the looper doesn't
> support latency
> compensation or if you have not set it up correctly. In
> Mobius I
> prefer to set up latency compensation manually by ear:
> record a
> rhythmic loop, overdub a rhythm to it. If the overdub
> doesn't play
> back in the loop as you played it the settings are not
> correct. Adjust
> a little and play again to see what way the timing drags,
> keep on
> until the loop's layer's timing is dead on.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com