Re: Frustrated RC-50 user trying to gain bearings with Ableton Live

[Adam Gaskins <shipiboconibo@gmail.com>]

Thanks again for all the help guys.

I am happily looping now using the tap in/out early method. Didn't
take long to get the knack.

Now, how do I do the 'first loop sets tempo' thing? I like starting
off with a loop sometimes, but I'd like to start playing guitar first
on some tracks or be able to loop to a live drummer and get his tempo
that way. Right now I'm looping using Live alone, is this where Mobius
comes into play, or can this be done natively in Live? I love the idea
of using Mobius, as it seems a better tool for the job, but I am
already pushing my CPU limit with the other VSTs I'm running, so I'd
rather not have to introduce another one in the mix if I can avoid
it... but at the same time maybe it's worth it, mobius seems a lot
more flexable.

I guess my questions are:
1) how do you guys do 'first loop sets tempo' in the context up Live,
with or without Mobius?
2) What are your thoughts on looping with Live naively vs. Mobius?
Pros and cons?

Thanks,
-Adam

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> If you're slightly
>> late the looper would have to "go back in time" and pretend that it
>> started recording a few milliseconds before you hit the button.  There 
>are
>> techniques for this but I wasn't aware the RC-50 had them.
>
> Yes, this is probably one of the best features of RC-50. It's really 
>quantizing the start point in both directions. I've noticed that when 
>looping with Ableton: Just be a millisecond too late and you loose it...
>
> Adam: Another thing I do with the RC-50: When in SINGLE MODE, you can 
>step on one of the PHRASE pedals to retrigger the loop. I use that when 
>playing with others quite often. This way, when the loops starts going 
>out of sync, I can retrigger it.
>
> best regards
> Buzap
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