Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options

[van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>]

I haven't looked into either solutions for a long time: costs! 8-(
However, I did wonder how micro-motor driven tuners on the headstock 
would stay stable, given that strings will be dragged over the nut.

I'd think the Trans Performance system will be much more stable, as it 
features motor driven tuners as part of the bridge, i.e. akin to a 
headless tuner system.
I once saw a vid of Page demonstrating the system; very impressive!
Also, this system can hold a large number of tunings, whereas the tuner 
peg system can only do 5-7, IIRC.

Whichever solution, it still means slacking and tensioning strings.  I'm 
pretty sensitive to tension, so while a few 'nearby-related' tunings 
might work fine, retuning to quite varying systems seems less feasible.

Two applications which might work really well would be a fretless guitar 
and a slide axe.
Elsewhere in this really interesting thread, it was mentioned that 
certain tunings, open ones included, too easily leads to getting stuck 
in a groove
That's how I feel about slide works; open-E soon gets immensily boring.
Ability to retune between various open and whatever tunings on the fly 
*while* playing the slide..  now, that would be really interesting :nod:

Dreams are the stuff life is made of...   now, where's the money?



L.Angulo wrote:
> actually the system was invented years ago before in the U.S. by trance 
>performance,Jimmy Page,Graham Nash and others have been using this system 
>succesfully for years,the German company just put this whole concept into 
>tuning pegs instead of inside of the body of the guitar.
> However i ve read a lot of negative reviews on this new gibson 
>prototypes and about the system being too expensive and not being really 
>efficient and having major issues.
> I called the power tune company here in germany not long ago to ask them 
>if they would consider developing this technology for acoustic guitar but 
>they said thats something they will try to explore,although is much more 
>complicated to develop for some reason.Trance performance however has  
>already done it and brought out an acoustic guitar prototype that costs a 
>fortune with the system inside(there was a video of Graham Nash 
>commenting on it it but i lost the link)
> but it seems like a monstrous task and you would have to buy a guitar 
>with it otherwise your precious acoustic will go through some major 
>surgery!!
> but for me if any of this companies comes out with an efficient tuning 
>peg system accesible for all acoustic guitars then it will be a dream 
>come true!!
> Luis
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>>>I can't understand why no one has successfully
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>>invented a tuning peg that could auto tune your guitar.  I
>>talked to Paul Smith (PRS) about this a while back and he
>>said it was because of the weight of the tuner changing the
>>tone of the guitar.  But I think I saw that Gibson had one
>>coming out.  
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>>It's available, wasn't invented by Gibson, but a
>>German. Gibson licenced it. I can poke the name/link.  The
>>system is available for some Fender & Gibson
>>look/work-alike guitars. About a thousand euro, last I
>>checked.
>>There's the system made famous by Jimmy Page. Yikes,
>>more memory losses.
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>>-- rgds,
>>van Sinn
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rgds,
van Sinn