Re: First post - newbie advice wanted

["L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

Hi Rod,
There are times when i get hired to do such gigs.I myself went through a 
series of loop stompboxes but soon got old.I wanted to record loops that 
would be longer than the initial one and change parts, and upon my search 
i stumbled into the EDP and discovered more loops and multiply,boy that 
was a gas!But back in 96 the oberheim EDP had a lot of issues but 
eventually i discovered this site and got the new software which solved 
all of those problems.
All was fun for years and i could never get enough from the EDP,that box 
is still so ahead of this time! but then i wanted to do more complex stuff 
and have stereo tracks so i could mute and store my loops rather than 
having just a single mono loop so i got the Repeater.That was also a lot 
of fun because i could store the loops and recall them at a gig though i 
never stopped using the EDP.
Eventually th pīter got discontinued and i was never completely happy with 
it because the tracks werent really independent plus it had other issues.I 
sold it later to find out that there was a new SW upgrade that would take 
care of a lot of those issues so i was bummed;-(
Then the Looperlative came out which i had for a short while,unfortunately 
mine had some technical issues and although is a good box it was missing a 
lot of features and functions important to me.Then all of the sudden i 
discovered Mobius which has everything i needed,loops,8 independent 
tracks,literally all EDP functions,loop storage,recording 
capabilities,scripts to create your own functions,stereo,pristine sound 
and best of all amazing support from Jeff and is free!!
So like you i resisted the laptop route for years and to be honest if 
mobius came in hardware i would probably switch to it in a hard beat.I 
realize how fragile a laptop and soundcard devices can be,2 of my firewire 
soundcards have had problems with the firewire conection lately,i just 
sent my expensive RME FW 800 to get it repaired for a second time now,and 
now all of the sudden my presonus seems to have a similar problem,thank 
god it happend after my last gig!
So why hasnt my dream come true 100 percent yet? well first just like you 
i am a singer and sometimes do gigs where id like to have backing groove 
drum sample tracks,effects to proccess my guitar,perhaps integrated synths 
to be triggered with my roland ready synth guitar and a good looper all in 
one package.
Second,as i said the laptop route with the firewire cable still makes me a 
bit shaky...and i havent really completely gotten used to it after playing 
so many years with hardware, but it is certainly way more flexible and the 
transporting capabilities when playing and traveling cannot be beat.So 
unless there is a piece of hardware that comes out with all of the 
essential looping capabilities for me i am very happy to have gone this 
route.
However ive been eyeballing the upcoming Ableton 8 which seems to have a 
lot of ths things but ive never used that software and i hear there is a 
learning curve.But the dream is getting closer and closer!
If you dont want to deal with laptops one of the options that has a lot of 
what you are looking for i guess is the Boss RC-50,there are a lot of 
experienced people here that will teach you how to get the best out of it 
so you have landed in the right place!
Luis









>   From: Rhod Evans 
>   To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:49 AM
>   Subject: First post - newbie advice wanted
> 
> 
>   Hi all
> 
>   I hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice I
> need...
> 
>   I have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) for
> more years than I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after
> a fall out with a couple of members of my recent band
> I've decided to sod 'em and go solo.  I have a good
> rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of
> Free, which is very flattering but I'll never be THAT
> good!).  I'm also reasonably competent on guitar, so my
> idea is to have drum sample and possibly bass midi backing,
> then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top of it.  I was
> going to use Ableton Live for this with a Laptop, but it
> seems ridiculously complicated for the simple and gritty
> style of music I'm aiming for - I also play bottleneck,
> so there will definitely be a bluesy bias.
> 
>   Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal -
> pre-record drum and bass loops in LIVE, download to the
> Jamman, then on stage play and record rhythm guitar
> verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, then loop
> and play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over
> the top of it.
> 
>   However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the
> Echoplex.  Am I missing something here?  As far as I can
> tell the Echoplex doesn't have the ability to download
> pre-recorded loops (no way of storing them?) so I would be
> severely at a disadvantage - how it be possible to get 3
> sets worth of prepared music onto it?  I'm not worried
> about the cost - it's more important that I get the
> right kit, as I have gigs waiting.
> 
>   Any advice on which you think I should go for would be
> much appreciated.  Also any thoughts on the practicality or
> otherwise of my idea.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   For info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer, Fender guitar
> amp, 2 guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon
> 'VoiceLive' which is a vocal processor able to
> produce harmonies on the fly and which has reverb,
> compression, noise gate etc.