Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions

[Andrew Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com>]

Hey Per,

Thanks for the thoughts on this.  I did not make myself totally clear, but 
you basically addressed my concerns of Live 8.  I meant that once you have 
a loop which might consist of say, 5 parts, you would then be able to 
import each individual part as separate clips.  Then you can effect, twist 
and manipulate individual parts of the loop, and grow it into something 
almost totally different.  I guess that is just my desire as this is how I 
create my music most of the time.

Below are examples of a 5 part loop I did over a year ago, and then the 
same loop imported into LIVE and twisted (with some drums loops added).

Select  - Sea-legs Original loop:
http://www.untitledvisions.com/Site/Loops_IV.html

Select  - Sea-Legs at:
http://www.untitledvisions.com/Site/Music_I.html

Like I said, I think it is just wishful thinking on my part because of how 
I like to create my music!

Thanks for some great loop insights!

Andy

 
On Monday, March 09, 2009, at 03:05AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Andrew Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com> wrote:
>> I was truly excited to hear Ableton Live was going to add a looper to 
>the Live arsenal!  I have yet to open the demo,
>> as I have other projects right to finish right now, but it is my 
>understanding that any loops created can be brought into Live as an 
>entire loop clip.
>
>Correct. There are two ways to do this. Drag the loop and drop it on
>an audio clip and the usual way of routing it to an armed audio track
>and activate a slot for triggering recording.
>
>> This is where I am really, really disappointed.  I hope I am totally 
>wrong about this, but it seems to me that this is an extreme oversight on 
>Abletons part.
>
>Not sure what you mean. Do you mean that it is bad that they did not
>implement a ful Undo History, as in Mobius, that would open up for a
>command to save old layers of a loop as separate files?
>
>> Right now I am using my Guitar Rig 3 Loop Machine, and once I get 
>something I dig, then I export it as separate wav files and bring those 
>into Live as separate clips and away I go.  At least 50% of all the music 
>I do starts this way.
>>
>> I just think that if you could separate your loop parts and import them 
>as individual clips, then I would be in loopers heaven!  If anyone knows 
>differently, please let me know!
>
>There is a slicing function now in v 8 that devices a loop into parts.
>Not sure it works directly on the looper audio, but definitely on a
>clip frozen from the looper content. If you by "parts" mean earlier
>layers of the loop, that is not possible because only the latest layer
>is kept aside in a buffer for the Undo function.
>
>It's right that Lived 8's Looper is not very complex, but for some
>users that's a good point. I think it's pretty close to the Loop
>Station pedal from Roland.
>
>Greetings from Sweden
>
>Per Boysen
>www.boysen.se
>www.perboysen.com
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