Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions

[Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>]

Eh, guys... isn't Warren hosting the drum sequencer (UltraBeat) in
MainStage? Meaning whatever sync signal sent out from the Mobius
plug-in will target MainStage first hand. Plus Ableton Live, if he
runs that application too, in parallel. If this presumption is
correct, it would be best to only send one start command as the MIDI
Clock starts being sent out from Mobius ("sync = out" that is?). The
way to bring in a drum pattern could then be one of two ways: (1)
un-mute the drum thingy (that is running with the host all from the
start) or (2) start with an empty pattern running inside UltraBeat and
simply switch to a pattern with notes in it when it's about time. Then
the quantizing will happen in the drum sequence plug-in (as it is
designed for, which may be a good point)

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Per Boysen
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> 
wrote:
> that might be a good way for me to go - wouldn't force you into a
> prerelease of MidiSend, or require me to get scripts working. the loop
> vs. cycle start point issue would definitely be livable for a while.
> thx.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> 
>wrote:
>> [Warren]
>>> More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly
>>> in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted.
>>> then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute.
>>
>> There's something else that might work.  One of the Sync Mode values
>> is "Out User Start", another thing I copied from the EDP.  This will
>> start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it doesn't send a
>> Start message.  When you're ready to trigger the drum loop use the
>> "Start Song" function.  This will wait until the loop start point then
>> send a MIDI Start message.
>>
>> This would avoid having to mess with track mutes in Live, the downside
>> is that it is always quantized to the loop start point, you can't make
>> it start on an interior cycle boundary.
>>
>> Jeff
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