Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution

["L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

so with all this said would you guys buy a repeater if it was offered for 
you for 400.-eur.?

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 5:18 AM
> Rick,
> 
> I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be
> trying to take
> computers out of the race completely in this discussion by
> using false
> assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out
> here by
> e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K.
> 
> The most obvious example being:
> "The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops
> on sale for as
> little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals
> and breakout
> box this brings the tab up to about
> $700 (USD)RE"
> 
> A computer that can run an application like Mobius in
> stand-alone mode
> can be had for free. I personally threw away a (working)
> computer one
> year ago which was at that time approximately ten years old
> and hadn't
> been a top performer at the date of purchase. According to
> experiences
> reported on the Mobius discussion group, this hardware
> could run
> Mobius, albeit with limitations, which mostly affect
> unavailablity of
> pitch shifting and number of simultaneous tracks. Apart
> from that,
> it's a looper that is far more powerful than anything
> out there with
> the exception of the really big players.
> CRT monitors have been thrown away in the hundreds due to
> the
> widespread arrival of flatscreen display technology. So
> these can be
> had for free as well.
> A computer from that time usually includes an audio
> interface which
> (with the exception of latency issues) is more than
> sufficient for the
> task at hand.
> Jeff pointed out how you could use e.g. a cheap USB numeric
> keypad and
> jury-rig it to use it as a foot controller for Mobius,
> while Tony K
> and others correctly pointed out that you don't need
> foot control at
> all and can use the keyboard for controlling Mobius. As a
> matter of
> fact, I've seen a great many outstanding and
> experienced loopers who
> did at time control a (stompbox) looper with their hands,
> among them
> (without wanting to wilfully omit someone) Michael
> Klobuchar, Matt
> Dagignon and Genie.
> 
> Summarizing, you can get a looper for free. That's
> right, for free! It
> will of course require either some intellectual capacity or
> a friend
> who has this for
>     * setting up windows so it becomes resource-friendly
>     * setting up Mobius
> 
> And it may require more than one trip to the junk yard.
> 
> If you're willing to spend even more than zero dollars,
> look for a
> used laptop on ebay for below 100 bucks, which gives you
> all of this
> with less hassle.
> 
> This post should by no means invalidate all the reasons why
> someone
> would still want to use a hardware (stompbox) user, like
> reliability,
> ease of setup and operation, portability and all the other
> important
> reasons which there are and which lead to some people still
> using
> stompbox loopers even if their apartment is full of
> computers, MIDI
> foot controllers and studio quality audio interfaces.
> However, with the goal of "least costly", the
> computer does win - if
> only because you can get a sufficient second-hand one free.
> 
>             Rainer