Rick, Allen&Heath is selling the the ZED 14 which has 4 aux sends for $399, while a new Mackie 1402VLZ3 would cost you $429. See http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Allen-Heath-ZED14-USB-Mixing-Console?sku=630271 I don't know about the quality of the ZED series but the more expensive MixWizard series of Allen&Heath is top quality stuff. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/