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Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help!

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help!
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:03 +0000 (GMT)

ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?
i did everything just using notes... i hope it does!
Luis





> Another option is to try CC commands instead.
> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
> option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
> on while you hold the switch down.
> 
> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
> tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP
> note number)
> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on
> release.
> 
> hope you get looping,soon
> 
> andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> L.Angulo wrote:
> >> But as i said its only working for the virtual
> comands
> >> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me
> crazy!
> >>
> >> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
> >> ..and that's a "voila"
> > 
> > Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont
> know if its me or the controller but i need to know
> otherwise i think im going to return it.
> > heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions
> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give
> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct
> midi and it works!
> > with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i
> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to
> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch
> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.
> > 
> >> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's
> aren't
> >> working?
> >> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,
> and ties
> >> in with
> >> your observation that longpress on Record (to give
> Reset)
> >> isn't working. 
> >  
> > all im entering is the note number and the data value
> of 127 and nothing else!
> > But i have discovered something:
> > when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the
> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand
> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i
> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems
> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset
> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if
> it was locked and then i press it a second time and it
> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to
> you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be
> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the
> gordius and this one;-)
> > thanx for your always great help man i really
> apreciate it!
> > 
> > 
> >> My guess is that your controller is sending
> >> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
> >> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to
> release it
> >> before sending the Note-Off.
> >>
> >> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be
> audible.
> >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small
> time that
> >> you wouldn't perceive it)
> >>  
> >>
> >> I had a look at the manual for your controller,
> it
> >> describes a number
> >> of "button modes".
> >> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
> >> ....that's what you want.
> >> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as
> you
> >> *release* the switch)
> > 
> > tried that but nothing either...
> >> hope that helps
> >>
> >> andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> cheers
> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
> >>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid
> foot jr.
> >> midi
> >>>> footcontroller with EDP help!
> >>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,
> 10:46
> >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They only require Note-On (except
> for
> >> SUS)
> >>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset
> work)
> >> I'd try
> >>>> changing
> >>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary
> while
> >> Holding".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't understand where you
> entered
> >> "64".
> >>>>>> andy
> >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
> >>>>>>> hi gang,
> >>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid
> foot midi
> >>>> controller and
> >>>>>> im having a hard time controlling
> the EDP
> >> as i did
> >>>> with the
> >>>>>> behringer.
> >>>>>>> So far ive manage to program
> the
> >> virtual
> >>>> functions
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> record
> >>>>>>> overdub
> >>>>>>> multiply
> >>>>>>> mute
> >>>>>>> undo
> >>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>> reverse
> >>>>>>> half speed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the way i have to do this is
> giving
> >> the "note
> >>>> on"
> >>>>>> offset number and a value of 64
> and it
> >> works
> >>>> fine.
> >>>>>>> However when i try to program
> any of
> >> the e
> >>>> DirectMidi
> >>>>>> functions it does not respond at
> all,do i
> >> have to
> >>>> send
> >>>>>> additional comands for them to
> function? i
> >> recall
> >>>> on the
> >>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the
> note
> >> number and
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> worked.
> >>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not
> working
> >> is
> >>>> erasing the
> >>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the
> record
> >> button.
> >>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could
> take a
> >> little
> >>>> time to
> >>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!
> >>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr
> manual:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanx
> >>>>>>> cheers
> >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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