Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping

[George Ludwig <georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com>]

Per,

 

Thanks for explaining those options to me, I really didn't know even after all this time. :)

 

Anyway, the solution I got form the Ableton forum worked perfectly for me, which was to, in the midi sync tab, where it lists midi inputs 1-6 with 3 drop down list boxes, one for control surface, one for input, and lastly for output, set the control surface to nothing. When you have the control surface option selected, Live does an automapping of hardware controls to Live controls. That's what I couldn't get rid of.

 

Your solution doesn't really work for me because I use half of the nanoKontrol for Mobius, and the other half for Live tracks. I wanted the option to play along with Live's loops, and to be able to control them.

 

For my more serious music I use only Mobius, but I've been working on playing along with various pre-recorded loops as an experiment. And for that it's nice to have control of both.

 

Best,

 

George

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

YOu can't "turn off" that behavior. What you can do is to not send in
the data as remote control data for Live but rather as a pipe right
into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's
preferences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to
control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by
Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we
loopists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MIDI In
port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote". When
these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in
Live that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the
Live track's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing
as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the
plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live,
well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you
may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using
the third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig
<georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its
> parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the mapping
> for midi control.
>
> The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume control
> that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the volume of
> Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but
> still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just
> want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1.
>
> I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that you
> can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off this
> defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches.
>
> --
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>

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-George

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