Re: dealing with Live, default control mapping

[Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>]

Check what MIDI CC's the Nanokontrol is sending. Try staying away from
those that are listed by Roland General MIDI (GM) for general stuff as
"Voum" (CC7), "Pan" (CC10), "Breath" (CC2) etc etc... Might be a dozen
of those. I have not checked in detail with Ableton Live but at least
Mainstage has this issue of being hard-wired to these "Mr Jones'
Controllers" ;-)  with no way to use them without the host application
reacting.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> YOu can't "turn off" that behavior. What you can do is to not send in
> the data as remote control data for Live but rather as a pipe right
> into the Mobius plug-in. The place to set that up is in Live's
> preferences, the "MIDI Sync" tab. The MIDI In port that you use to
> control Mobius (given you control it by direct MIDI Input and not by
> Live's parameter, which is what Ableton usually recommends but we
> loopists don't usually prefer) should be set to "Track". The MIDI In
> port that you use to control Live should be set to "Remote". When
> these preferences are correct you also have to set up a MIDI Track in
> Live that snags your external MIDI data, aimed for Mobius, (as the
> Live track's "Input") and directs the stream into Mobius (addressing
> as "Track Output" first the track that hosts Mobious and then the
> plug-in Mobius). This is just the normal way of routing MIDI in Live,
> well explained in Live's manual. To set up more complex routing you
> may send MIDI through the OS as well (IAC Bus on a Mac and by using
> the third-party hack MIDI Yoke on a Windows machine).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:18 AM, George Ludwig
> <georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've got a looping plug-in (Mobius) and I want to control some of its
>> parameters with a Korg nanKontrol. No problem, Mobius lets me do the 
>mapping
>> for midi control.
>>
>> The problem is, when I run it in Live, Live intercepts the volume 
>control
>> that I have mapped to Mobius' track 1, and uses it to control the 
>volume of
>> Live's track 1. I've deleted all the midi volume mappings in Live, but
>> still, Live insists on changing the volume of track 1 when I really just
>> want to change the volume of Mobius' track 1.
>>
>> I've heard that Live has a default midi mapping, besides the one that 
>you
>> can edit, and it seems like this is the culprit. How do I turn it off 
>this
>> defualt behavior?! This is giving me major headaches.
>>
>> --
>> -George
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>>
>