Re: Citations needed for Wikipedia

[Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>]

wow, finally the EDP comes back to wikipedia?
last week I had to clean out a pile of faxes and scanned the communication 
with Gibson/Oberheim between 1993 and 1996, maybe those prove something?

> On 150203, at 07:01 , andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it's much more of a game than you'd imagine.
> 
> If citatations are done in the Wikipedia format (links to a list at the 
> bottom of the page),
> and are placed into the test at least as if they support each point 
> being made
> you might get away with it.
> 
> Really what they ask for is "secondary quotes". (quoted twice)
> i.e. if an academic paper  magazine quoted what Matthias said to a 
> magazine.
> 2 levels of quoting.
> 
> 
> It's more likely that the way your quoting looks is going to be 
> scrutinised,
> but not so much the content.
> 
> 
> Anyway,some sources:-
> 
> maybe the manual can be cited to prove involvement of Gibson?
> 
> http://www.gibson.com/files/amps/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf
> 
> 
> An independent version of the history is here:
> 
> "The original Oberheim Exhoplex was initially released in 1994. Later, 
> in 2001 it was relabeled the Gibson Echoplex after Gibson took over 
> Oberheim. Then it was reissued in 2003 in a slightly upgraded form as 
> the Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus (pictured above in black)."
> 
> http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/echoplex.php
> 
> 
> andy butler
> 
> 
> On 02/02/2015 20:04, Clifford Novey wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I edited the page in 2010 (quoted at bottom) and it has since been 
>> removed by a user stating it did not have citations. I am ot sure how I 
>> would get citations for the whole Paradis to Oberhiem to Gibson story. 
>> Any help appreciated. I prefer direct email to this list.
>> 
>> I hope everyone is well and I still loop!
>> 
>> Clifford
>> cnovey@gmail dot cm
>> or clifford@cliffordnovey d o t c m
>> 
>> current Wiki page- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echoplex
>> 
>> removed section:
>> 
>> 
>>  "The Echoplex Digital Pro
>> 
>> Gibson, after buying the Echoplex brand later (ca 1993) licensed the 
>> hardware and software of the Paradis Loop Delay originally created by 
>> Matthias Grob <http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/loopdev.htm> and his 
>> team at Aurisis Research <http://www.aurisis.com/aboutus.htm>. It was 
>> branded the Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro (Oberheim was a division of 
>> Gibson at the time)and a later revision was branded the Gibson Echoplex 
>> Digital Pro Plus and contained a major software upgrade called LoopIV 
>> developed and still sold as of this writing by Aurisis Research 
>> <http://www.aurisis.com/loopiv.htm>. The "EDP" as it would be called 
>> was a major development and innovation in the technique of audio 
>> looping (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_loop) and still has an 
>> eclectic following of users also known as "loopers". The EDP is an all 
>> digital device and though retaining the Echoplex name does not retain 
>> any of the electro mechanical design of the original, ie. the analog 
>> tape loop. The
>> website and looper resource Looper's Delight 
>> <http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html> was created by the EDP 
>> co-developer Kim Flint and still hosts an active email list. 
>> (Information for this section was gathered from the web pages linked in 
>> this section and from emails exchanged with Matthias Grob. See also 
>> http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/OBechoplexhistory.html 
>> for a brief history written by Matthias Grob.)"
>> 
>> 
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