Rodrigo- Well, as for the last one, I think your we're looking for the new Akai E1 Headrush Tap Delay/Tape Echo Simulator/Looping Recorder. It's a 16-bit digital delay with up to 28 sec. For more information, checkout ... http://www.akai.com/akaipro/namm99.html I think Musician's Friend is selling them for $199.00, but I don't know if they actually have them in stock. Don't forget that you can always search the archives from the Looper's Delight web page for what was previously discussed about this pedal as well. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Kriist@aol.com [mailto:Kriist@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 1:35 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: what were those pedals? there was some talk a bit ago about these korg(?) pedals i think they was something8000 there were 2 of them one did mostly time based stuff the other filter stuff what were they called oh, and what was that new stomp box looper something head thanks rodrigo oh, i know ive said his before but is anyone selling a grand stick?