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austin would be a great place for this stuff.
there is a good audience there for such things.
i would definitely come down from dallas for it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jimmy George" <jimmy@loadhandler.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>; <GLOBAL@cruzio.com>; 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:10 PM

> i am also very interested in being part of any type of looping movement. 
> looping festival is a great idea! we could host this in austin texas at a
> number of venues. please feel free to email me directly both at
> jimmy@loadhandler.com and jimmyg@jimmygeorgearts.com  to discuss 
>further. i
> think that having an annual looping festival is a great idea. i would
> happily drive else where if need be to join such a cause.
> peace
> jimmy george
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Biffle [mailto:Mbiffle@svg.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:39 PM
> To: GLOBAL@cruzio.com; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Rick Walker wrote...
> > I recently wrote a letter to a fellow respected looping musician asking
> him if there was a chance of setting up a looping festival in the city 
> he lives in.   This is part of the letter I recieved back from him in 
> (which also generously shared contact and club information in his city):
> >> He wrote:
> >> "........Well, as far as 'my city'  being "happening"...I'd say 
> about fifty musicians who work together in various loose-knit 
> and attend each other's shows (in groups of a half-dozen or so).  
>There's no
> audience beyond that......... I'm not really interested in setting up a
> mini-festival.  I dealt with that ..... where I used to live and it was a
> massive pain in the ass for very little return.  The public doesn't 
> care how you make
> interesting sounds, unless perhaps it's something exotic and fashionable
> such as the Theremin--they just want to hear something 
> To which Rick replied...
> > I hear what you say about looping and looping festivals.  It is 
> the same here. We've only  had 50-100 people per show for 4 looping 
> To be frank, though, I couldn't care less about popularity.   I care 
> the quality of the work and the nurturing of young artists in a culture 
> undervalues their unique contributions... snip... > My point is that
> community and energy are more powerful, culturally speaking than pure
> monetarily driven commercialism... snip... > My point?    Energy, 
> and Creativity is what changes our culture for the better.  
> I've gotta jump in here as well... Regardless of audience demographics, 
> found that meeting other musicians and creating community is really what
> drives MY playing and motivates me. Dialog with your peers really brings 
> sense of shared effort and minimizes the feeling of lonliness pervasive 
> "unpop" culture. 
> Many of us are lucky enough to be playing semi-normal sounding music 
> somehow fits into an existing scene. What about those really wanting to
> experiment? Push limits? Our audience is first and foremost our peers...
> other players out there trying to have dialog with each other and learn 
> each other.
> This same problem exists in radical free-improv music... the so called
> "creative" music scene really has an intense, thriving worldwide 
> certainly with a small devout audience... but more certainly fueled by a
> commitment among the players to follow the creative impulse honestly 
> ever** it arises regardless of current trends and audience 
> It's been discussed to death recently over at the BA-NEWMUS list, and 
> apparent that REALLY going for it and doing whatever you really feel 
> is never going to appeal to large masses... It's too damned 
> but it sure is HONEST and because of that it gains a fanatically loyal
> commitment by a core group of artists, and an ever growing group of
> listeners. What's so awful about that? I'm proud to be "unpop"!
> Rick...
> > Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture, picking 
> and/or creating the emerging trends before the sweep over the culture.  I
> agree.
> I've heard this said too... Thanks for reminding me of this Rick... I
> completely agree also.
> Working together NOW... talking... playing... experimenting... 
> All of this will inform our collective growth and make for a meaningful
> dialog which will MAKE SENSE, in some way to listeners. We'll ultimately 
> connected and not lonely anymore... or maybe we'll all be lonley 
>together? I
> can live with that! 8-) 
> Anyway... I'm off MY soap box now as well...
> Best,
> -Miko Biffle