Could someone (or maybe everyone) going to NAMM bug Electro-Harmonix about the 16-second DD? I would think the tremendous success of the Line6 DL4 would have encouraged them. still dreaming, Daryl firstname.lastname@example.org P.S. oh yes and thanks Looper's, the recommendation of the Zoom 2100 allowed me to get a great-sounding 32-second sampler for $56! (on eBay) I'd never have found out about this otherwise. I can't believe the (low) prices these are going for...and yes I've seen a few places that still sell new ones, for about $130.