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Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for looping)
I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE
have? Vox is not doing a good job of advertising this feature as I
have only heard it mentioned here. Also, I saw you mention in another
post that the Tonelab will let you disable the cabinet simulations so
you can use it with an amp w/out double filtering your signal. I am
wondering if it is possible for you to disable all the amp-like parts
and use it as a multi-fx unit. Can you tweak the parameters in real
time easily while you playing? I would like to get the Tonelab to
record with and then I would like to use it with a real guitar amp and
use just the FX onstage, but I need to be able to adjust things
real-time while on stage. Can this be done with the Tonelab? If it
also has looping it may have everything I need. Thanks!
On Jun 18, 2004, at 1:16 PM, msottilaro wrote:
> Hoo boy, do I feel like a jerk.
> ... but I'd feel like more of a jerk if I didn't apologies. Last
> night I got my gear back together in my studio after my gig on Monday,
> and I noticed a volume drop and kind of odd low level distortion that
> I couldn't quite place. Sounded like it does when my Steinberger's
> battery is dying, but I just put in a fresh expensive battery a week
> ago... the day I bought the Vox Tonelab.
> O' oh. Can you see where this is going? I took out the battery and
> low and behold, my tongue told me that it was nearly dead. What?
> Huh. They usually last a lot longer that that... unless...
> I went to get it's sister still in the blister pack. Dead as well.
> Never used. Still well within the expiration, but clearly not a good
> battery. I ran out and got another pack of batteries (tested in the
> car to make sure) and low and behold: The volume doubled and I had a
> crisp clear output as I usually do. I kicked off the EQ'd I'd been
> using and of course my patches sounded brittle and way bright... but
> not bright in that ugly distorted way I'd been complaining about. A
> half an hour of tweaking and I had a few banks of great sounding
> patches... sans post EQ.
> Lesson? Lick your 9 volts before you install them I guess. The
> Tonelab was putting out garbage because my guitar was sending it
> garbage. I haven't had a huge amount of time to spend with it since
> the battery change, but this morning it sounded glorious to my ears.
> I was quick to think this was an issue with the Tonelab itself because
> there were a fair amount of posts on the Tonelab list that described
> the exact same thing, even to the point where the basic EQ pattern was
> agreed on. Oh well, lesson learned. Check this baby out, I think
> people will be generally impressed with it as an amp/stompbox modeler
> and as a looper.
> On Jun 18, 2004, at 9:11 AM, Greg House wrote:
>> I think that's part of it. I have a Yamaha DG Stomp and the best I've
>> ever heard
>> it sound was when I was playing it through a loud PA. To my ear, it's
>> just ok
>> when it comes to recording, but when it was pumping in a floor
>> monitor (like
>> having a real amp next to me) it took on a life I'd not heard before.
> You're probably experiencing a combination of your ears ability to
> hear bass better at louder volumes coupled with natural acoustic
> feedback. Hard to do when you're landlord lives below you, but I know
> what you mean. I can kind of get there using the Sustainiac that's
> installed in my Steinberger, but it's not quite the same.