On Jul 14, 2004, at 10:22 AM, bruce tovsky wrote: > one downside to sustainer technique is the inability to press the > string driving element closer to the strings, something i do a lot > with my ebow - even to the point of getting rattles from the ebow > touching the strings Bruce, this is one of my favorite techniques, and for me is an essential part of what makes the eBow expressive. I also move the eBow towards and away from the pickups for dynamics, or side to side / up and down for an almost tremolo effect. Chords would be cool, but I still think the eBow adds a lot of options for such a cheap and simple device that can be used on any instrument. From what I have read about the Gizmotron, it sounds like it would have been an amazing device. I think everyone agrees that an eBow doesn't really sound like bowed strings, but from what I have read the Gizmotron actually comes much closer, which makes sense as the mechanism is closer to an actual bow on string. I like having options and different colors to work with so I wish I could have such a device in my arsenal. I hate "vintage" stuff though, so buying a used one is out of the question for me. Has anyone here mentioned Sustainiac sustainers? They have two models, one like the home made "wall speaker" device mentioned earlier in the thread and another like the one on Fernandes guitars. BTW, if no one has said it yet, With or Without You by U2 has Infinite guitar on it.