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we'll have to agree to disagree. There are plenty of people who go to 
coffeeshops who can't afford buy every CD of each artist they see 
there....maybe not even one CD. Shit, I hear people say this ALL of the 
time..."Gee, I wish I could buy your CD, but I'm just strapped for cash." 
Just because they buy a cup of coffee for $1.50, doesn't mean they can 
afford to buy a CD. Their budget may be completely set and allowing for a 
few cups of coffee a week, but not CD.  I'll I'm trying to get you to 
is that there are people who frequent coffee shops who can't afford CDs, 
that's all.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Hartnett" <travishartnett@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:08 PM

The coffeeshops cater to people with disposable income, because coffee
is a non-necessity, and paying someone else to make food or drink for
you is a luxury.  The free-riders are an unintended and largely
undesired side-effect of having an open door and being unwilling to
boot people who aren't buying enough.

A coffee store that has live music isn't catering to the proletariat.
I find that coffee-serving establishments with live music seem to be
the same in Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia, Bellingham, Portland, Coeur
d'Alene, Woodinville, Carlisle, St. Andrews, Dundee, Houston, Dallas,
San Antonio, Fort Worth, Vancouver, etc.  If someone's got $1.50 for a
cup of coffee, they've got $5 for a CD of something they really like.
I'm not playing in greasy spoons for the indigent.


On 1/8/06, Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----

> Although I wouldn't agree that all coffeshops cater to people with
> disposable income. I meet a lot of starving artists and students at
> coffeeshops who are NOT buying $4 lattes and mochas, but the $1.50
> plain cup of joe. They can't afford CDs, but love to sit and listen to
> the music, read the free paper neareby, etc.  Maybe you have a lot
> of yuppies in Seattle who hang out in coffeeshops and are blowing
> lots of cash on CDs, $300 express makers, etc...not here.   Have you
> seen your mean income in Seatte lately?  I've frequented Seattle 
> coffeshops
> many times. I see a lot of people who dress and drive wealthy. You won't
> see that here in Boise very often, at least in a coffeeshop. Hence, I 
> think
> your point on coffeeshops is relative. I think you point is more valid in
> regard to nice restaurants, wine bars, and galleries, however.