BTW, since alternate controllers and weird effect boxes both come up as a regular topic on the list, here's a pointer to a new piece of gear that's a little of both: http://www.sourceaudio.net/main.php This is essentially a motion sensor shaped somewhat like a ring. It's designed to go on the finger of a guitarist's picking hand, and the position of the sensor can control the filter/wah. It's produced by Source Audio -- a company spun off from Analog Devices -- and uses components developed in collaboration with them. They've got a booth at NAMM (Hall 'E' #1126, for all you lucky b*stards that are gonna be there ;) and projected release is early 2006. MSRP is $299. --m. -- _______ "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike..."