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Re: Maybe why Avante-garde looping in US...
At 12:40 PM -0800 2/2/06, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>This is kind of long-winded but please let's not start a thread about the
>music each of us hates. I've seen this thread on just about every forum
>ever been on and it's boring.
Hopefully not a thread about the music each of us hates, but rather
still staying open to legitimate criticisms of the form here...
> I don't think it's going to go away because you disapprove of
>it. Besides the same thing's been said about just about every new music
>that's come up: rock, jazz, waltzes, Broadway show tunes, ambient,
>Hey, Stravinsky's music started a _riot_.
My biggest problem with the current state of Hip Hop is that it seems
to have lost any innovative or revolutionary spirit that it once
possessed. Rap (the predecessor to Hip Hop) began by combining two
things: the expression of message(s) that are outside the mainstream,
and the use of the voice as a rhythm instrument.
Unfortunately, in America, 99.9% of current Hip Hop artists seem to
have completely lost this. They have few, if any, meaningful
messages to convey. Failing that, it would still be acceptable to at
least have an interesting rhythmic sense. However, most American
artists seem to have missed that point as well. In short, my largest
criticism of current American Hip Hop is the same as my criticism of
the majority of other musics here -- it is simply boring and
Now, in Hip Hop's defense, I would instead recommend trying to find
music from cultures other than America. As mentioned previously, the
art form's been around for a quarter century. Other cultures have
adopted it as well as ours, and a lot of them have done really
interesting things, IMNSHO. Also, some languages besides English
seem extremely interesting in a Hip Hop context.
The French Hip Hop that I've heard is simply phenomenal, maybe
because French seems to lend itself to rapid fire strings of
syllables while still maintaining an interesting "flow". That
results in really interesting rhythmic juxtapositions (I'm curious
how other Latin languages would do here). Slovene is another example
of a language that lends itself surprisingly well to Hip Hop. And,
believe it or not, there are even some artists singing in Deutsche
that are more interesting than many American artists. Witness the
antics of German artists, Die Fantastisch Vier, as well as the
occasional Falco rap done in his sing-song Viennese dialect.
So, to summarize, there is interesting Hip Hop being made. You just
have to get out of the US to find it.
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