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Re: newb questions

Well, here's another area of new territory and ignorance for me - MIDI.  
The Zendrum is simply a MIDI controller.  It would run through a drum 
module to generate sound.  Am I correct in assuming that the signal coming 
form the drum module would/could be analog?  In that case, the violin, mic 
and Zendrum would all just go through a mixer into the looping hardware, 
right?  So my original statement about needing MIDI input may be 

What does "VST" mean?

Did a little surfing on the Repeater and sound quality seems to be a 
common complaint.

Thanks for your help!  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Ash" <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: newb questions


You haven't completely described your requirement for MIDI input - but 
the Electrix Repeater will only record audio in.  It's MIDI 
functionality is for control purposes only.  Not sure about 
Looperlative, but I assume it's an audio-only looper. 

A laptop/Mobius solution would also allow you to record MIDI from your 
Zendrum to a MIDI track in real time.  This would require that you run 
the VST version of Mobius in a host sequencer of some sort, such as 
REAPER or Ableton Live!

The Repeater does appear to meet most of your other requirements.  
Looperlative may offer better audio quality.  My Repeater can get pretty 
warbly when it's sync'd to an upstream clock.YMMV

I use the Behringer FCB1010 MIDI foot controller, which should fill the 
bill - it's very cheep for what it does...  I don't have a laptop 
looping setup, but as a drummer you may have special requirements wrt 
latency. You'll need a powerful system and compatible sound card 
(there's a good thread about sound card latency going on right now).  
This is certainly an issue if you want to use VST instruments as well as 

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY

> Subject:
> newb questions
> From:
> "Philip Pan" <7stringviper@earthlink.net>
> Date:
> Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:56:20 -0400
> To:
> "Loopers Delight Forum" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Hello, I am very interested in live looping.  I know what I want 
> functionally but I don't know what equipment has these capabilities.  
> My computer/software knowledge is also quite limited.
> Here's what I'm after:
> 1. Four or more independent loop banks that will automatically 
> sync and can be individually recorded, played back, stopped and 
> erased at any time in any order.
> 2. Multiple inputs from different instruments and MIDI.  The ones I 
> have in mind now are a Zendrum (MIDI drum controller) and an electric 
> 7-string violin.  Maybe vocals too.
> 3. Everything (record, play, stop, erase, switch tracks) controllable 
> on the fly from stomp buttons. 
> 4. Save and download part or all to an external computer as desired.
> Is there any hardware looper that can do all this?  The closest I've 
> seen is Digitech's GNX3 or 4.  I'm not sure if individual tracks can 
> be played and stopped at will; I know they can be erased.
> My other option could be software-based with some kind of foot 
> controller linked to a laptop.  Are there foot controllers that would 
> work well for this?  How powerful a laptop would be required? 
> Thanks, I'm sure your answers will spawn a whole new set of questions!

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