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Re: Early bird loopers with Live?

also the fact that you can also have separate "tracks" of different 
lengths at will instead of being always tighted up to a loop is a big 
advantage and not always so dependent on Multiply !


--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 4:33 AM
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:42 PM,
> L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Yes i am also waiting for the mighty EDP like multiply
> on Mobius!
> Yup, I'd appreciate that too. But the bottom line for me is
> that I'm
> happy that, with Mobius, I got away an aspect of multiply
> on the EDP
> that always annoyed the shit out of me. I'm talking about
> the Loop4
> now, not Loop3: When you want to cut down the length of a
> loop with
> Multiply you kick it twice. But if you kick with a too
> short time
> between the two Multiply kicks the EDP thinks that you want
> to tell it
> that you want to "multiply for a number of cycles"
> (equaling the
> number of erroneous Multiply kicks given too quickly. There
> was no way
> to call off that action on the EDP - you were forced to
> live with it.
> In a live situation where you may work with a loop of two
> minutes
> length this would result in a forced multiply for two more
> minutes -
> instead of the intended cutting down the loop to just one
> cycle to
> keep the musical flow up. I just hated that function and I
> never found
> out a way to disable it.
> So I must say that I'm generally more happy with the Mobius
> way of
> multiplying. I used to keep my own script that waits until
> the next
> cycle cusp before starting the Multiply, but since that
> doesn't work
> with the Lame Duck Period I have repelled back to stock
> Mobius
> multiplying now. I found that it is actually possible to
> not have that
> dreadful extra cycle added; you have to kick the Multiply
> just a
> fraction before the next quantize value and then you have
> to go out of
> Multiply Mode with Overdub. Someone on the Mobius list
> posted that
> advice.
> I also love the Instant Multiply/Devide. I always keep
> pedals and hand
> buttons for x2, x3 and x4. That makes it possible to cut
> down or
> increase loop lengths to musically interesting relations in
> just a
> second. My favorite is to copy a loop length, then go x3
> and then /2
> (or x4 and /3). Apply to one of two, or more, parallel
> loops for poly
> rhythm cooking. ;-)
> Greetings from Sweden
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com