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Re: reducing "time to setup"--



This is an interesting question that I consider often, especially when creating pure audio versions of my looped music (for listening as opposed to live performance).

The most basic answer is: without any sort of "cheating" there is no way to minimize the ramp-up, and for me this is, indeed, sort of the point. The process of live looping is, one hopes, interesting in itself for the audience to watch, as it makes them feel they are in on the creative process. So in general they are "with" you as you do this, but that said, I feel it's really important to use this buildup time in a musical way as part of the composition itself. If written thoughtfully, the initial buildup time can be really compelling compositionally, keeping the audience wondering what's going to happen next. So my best advice is to think carefully about each individual layer to make sure it is in itself musical.

You can also cheat, if you use a program such as Mobius that allows you to load pre-recorded "Projects." I have a couple of songs that use this technique, allowing each track to enter organically by unmuting it, but not having to spend the time actually recoding it. The two problems with this method are: your own ethics around how much material you're comfortable pre-recording (I figure since I am triggering the entrances in a visible way there is still a "live" element to this), and as far as I can tell in Mobius you have to manually futz with your computer on stage in order to load a Project. This breaks my rule of never touching my computer.

In putting out my songs on CD I occasionally shorten the lead-in time if I feel that without the visual the layering is not in itself compelling, but if you've really given each layer musical deliberation, as I suggest above, this shouldn't even be necessary.

My way too many cents.
xx

On 12/05/2013 3:28 pm, Rusty Perez wrote:
Hi Andy and others,
I've been looping for a while, song bassed looping to back my singing
and create a fuller sound, but I find myself sortof waiting to realy
kick in until I've built up a couple of layers.

Could you please elaborate on ways you've found to minimize this "rampup" time?

Thanks so much!
Rusty



On 12/5/13, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


On 05/12/2013 15:12, Mike Fugazzi wrote:

Basically, I want to do some more complex arrangements via
some stored loops so it doesn't take a minute to get into a full song.

You really don't need stored loops to achieve that.

A large proportion of the artists on this list solved this problem
in a whole load of different ways.

There doesn't need to be that "just wait till I set up my backing" time.

Andy



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