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when i read this: ........................................................... > Andre -What are some of the gremlins you are talking about? Andre starts his list: >The most problematic for me is that the reverse function has an erratic >and unpredictable tendency to introduce a popping noise at the initial >loop point, which is generally unremovable. In a transparent loop, this >is a real bummer, dude. So sorry man. Then +Reverse+ was just incredibly complicated. Now a structural change made it simpler and killed the clicks. >Beyond that, there's a function called "loop copy" which was apparently >not finished in time for the initial shipment of the Oberheim; the slot on >the front panel reserved for this function doesn't actually do anything, >so you have to use a slightly less direct combination of commands to get >this going (although it does work flawlessly when you use it). Its done now. I wonder whether you are really going to use it. As you say, with +Next-Multiply+ or +Next-Insert+ you can do the same, more flexible for my taste. >I've also noticed that the delay mode of the unit tends to be a bit >tempramental in terms of how and where it decides to place the loop point. The Start Point, you mean? Yes, it jumped around under a certain condition I do not remember. Fixed. .................................................. ........................................................i breathed a large sigh of relief. i noticed the reverse popping when testing the unit in the store, and actually took my first unit back and got a different one that seemed quieter. but it still happens, and it really kills the value....say you spend 20 minutes making a monster loop, and then you intend to reverse it, and make a recording of it. the POP appears...and all your work is TRASHED (unless you want the pop in you recording).... the LOOP COPY problem caused me even more grief: I called Oberheim, described the problem, and they said send it in. So I did. Three weeks later I got it back (after MANY MANY phone calls). As it turned out, there was "nothing wrong" with it (so they cost me weeks of down time for no reason) because you have to use LOOP COPY the alternate way (as noted above). what a pain that method is to. I can't remember it, and if I want to do it I have to drag out my pencilled notes and relearn the whole bizarre process. START POINT: as far as I'm concerned...this has NEVER worked correctly. so: anticipating the long awaited UPGRADE........that will make this box what it should have been all along!!! d 1734516817345168173451681734516817345168173451681734516817345168 lead me in with a count of seventeen... (Mr. Blint, Consequences/Godley & Creme) visit: http:www.adnc.com/web/ambient/index.html seventeen: the ambient music page 1734516817345168173451681734516817345168173451681734516817345168