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Hi Paul I purchased the Vortex a while back and found out quickly that I have very little patience for programming. I use the Vortex presets mostly.. I might tweak them sometimes. Overall the sound quality is very good. I use the Vortex,one of the channels of the Jamman, along with a direct feed from my preamp and more or less process these in parallel. Anyway back to the Vortex. I find that I use it to add color my sound. The unit itself is capable of some truly unique sounds. Also the capability to morph into different sounds can add subtle...or not so subtle sonic contrasts. Plus preset #16 (and other presets) give you the ability to set up ambient loops. Considering that the price has dropped to $150,(Guitar Center), it's worth some consideration. Worse case --- You,ve got a tap-tempo delay line. I would like to hear from other looper's about this box... maybe swap some ideas or programs/programming tips? joe At 01:15 PM 10/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >hey Joe ... how do you like the Vortex ... I've been using the Jamman with >an lxp15 and was wondering of the added dimensions of the Vortex > > > > >