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For those of you interested in compressing a guitar signal in a way that works reasonably well, try putting the compressor as close to the source as possible. I found out the benefits of this arrangement back in 1980 when I played one of those oddball Gibson RD model guitars. In addition to having active electronics on-board (ie a preamp w. active pickups) it had on-board compression and expansion too (circuit designed by Bob Moog). The sound of this setup so ammazed me I bought one (ugly as it was) and it has become my main axe for the past 16 years. The RD was unfortunately one of Gibson's "Edsels" (a product too advanced and/or too wierd for its time (or any other). It didn't take too long for it to slip into oblivion. However the electronics did live on for a few more years in other models of Gibsons (LPs, SGs, and others) that had this as an option. One might try vintage guitar magazine for locating something like this. For those who do not want to buy a new guitar but might want the same effect (pun intended), you might try pestering the folks at my place of employment (Seymour Duncan). Last year they "beta tested" some on-board guitar electronics packages that included a compressor circuit (and some other interesting things too). They never made it to market because, in the end, they didn't think enough people would buy them (even though they worked rrrrreally well). As a matter of fact I snapped up one of them myself and replaced the innards of my trusty old RD. If enough folks called, maybe they would reconsider the decision not to market the thing, and/or just perhaps they might still have a few of those beta units left around. It never hurts to ask...(just don't tell 'em I said so okay?). Ted Killian killinfo@aol.com