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Kim, When I click on a couple links (on the Loopers front web page), I just get a blank screen. Specifically, the links to Looping Practitioners and Tips and Tricks draws a blank. I am using Netscape 3.0. Any ideas what might be happening here? P.S. I enjoyed the history portion of the site: Eno's line: "all of my ambient music I should say, really was based on that kind of principle, on the idea that it's possible to think of a system or a set of rules which once set in motion will create music for you." ...strikes a chord with me. I like the idea of creating tools to create music...i don't think its cheating...I mean, where does the music come from anyways? --------------------------------------- Chris Chovit cho@gomez.jpl.nasa.gov ---------------------------------------