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Andre on his knees :-) : >For instance, the noise gate in the Plex is designed to work with the Undo >feature, to make sure that miroscopic bits of background noise don't fill >up the "undo que" in the unit's memory. Undo isn't even an option on the >Lexicon. Thats it! Plus there is a fundamental difference internally: The JamMan plays from the beginning of the memory to the end of the loop and then jumps back to the beginning of the memory. This is the structure of a sampler and makes those functions easy. The Plex circles around the whole memory constantly like a tape loop or a digital delay. This fascilitates features like Multiply and Undo a lot but difficults the sampling side. We had to introduce loads of markers that run together with the sound to indicate where we have to jump to in case of +Mute-Undo+ for example. Imagine +Reverse+ or +Next-Multiply+ %-/ ! >Ultimately you should spend as much time as possible with a Plex and see >if it agrees with you. Lexicon's a great company (in some ways I'm >enjoying the looping features on the Vortex even more than on the >Oberheim!), and they seem to have their act together quite a bit more as >far as having a clue as to what to do with a product (I'd guess this is >the main reason that JamMan users seem to outnumber Echoplex users by a >pretty considerable ratio. Can't buy the thing if you can't find it...) >But in terms of depth and flexibility, you can't beat the Oberheim. Lets dream of a looper on the PCM80 quality level with Lexicons care with distribution and service! Thanks for all the flowers! Lets open some space for the JamMan users and fundamental questions. Matthias