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I forwarded a message of this kind before. Should we invite them to transfer this discussion to the loop list or transfer ours about Vortex to Synth-diy (where there are more solder iron interested) or ...found a Vortex list? :-) >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 18:06:48 -0500 >From: "Arnim X. Sauerbier" <arnims@usa.globelle.com> >Organization: Globelle >To: synth-diy@horus.sara.nl (DIY) >Cc: ajl@bitstream.net (Andrew Lunstad), > satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Chris Sattinger), redbooklab@aol.com >Subject: Synching a Vortex? >Sender: owner-synth-diy@horus.sara.nl >Precedence: bulk > >Hi folks! > >Not a synth question, but a musical DIY topic nonetheless: > >I've got a Lexicon Vortex (worth the $149 sale price IMHO). It lets the >user set delay times by tapping a 'delay/tap' button twice. The box has >no MIDI interface, but I'd like to sync the delays to my MIDI sequences! > >I was thinking of the following hack: use one of the outputs of my drum >machine as a click, then build some kind of circuit that closes the >contact of the 'tap' switch whenever a voltage peak (from the drum >machine) is detected. > >What would such a circuit look-like? Perhaps a transistor that triggers >a relay that closes the 'tap' button? > >What would you do? Any other solutions that wouldn't involve using-up an >output on my Drumstation? > >Thanks! Sorry for my glaring ignorance. >------------------------ >Arnim Then the answer of Gene Stopp who is an experienced synth inventor. His posts are nice, clear and fundamented: >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 17:00:36 PST >From: gstopp@fibermux.com >Encoding: 59 Text >To: synth-diy@horus.sara.nl >Subject: Re: Synching a Vortex? >Sender: owner-synth-diy@horus.sara.nl >Precedence: bulk > > I think you are on the right track... > > It is distinctly possible that the Vortex tap footswitch input is > looking for a short to ground as the trigger event, in which case you > could skip the relay idea and just use the transistor to ground the > input (like a Moog S-trigger). To turn on the transistor you could >use > a voltage trigger from a MIDI clock-to-voltage pulse converter, or > like you say derive a pulse from an audio event such as a drum hit. > > Converting the audio pulse to a voltage trigger can be done with an > envelope follower plus a comparator. Actually for such a specific > application you can probably throw together a simple > diode/cap/resistor peak detector into an op-amp into the transistor > and be done with it. Probably you'll need a 10x preamp on the front > end. It might have to be tweaked to the specific drum sound that you > use, but since the Vortex is expecting a "sloppy" pulse like a human > foot on a switch, it probably doesn't care too much about pulse > duration. > > The way I'd figure this out is with a protoboard, an assortment of > components, and a scope. Hey I have a Vortex now, maybe I'll check > this out some time (next week at the soonest...). > > A couple weeks ago I built a MIDI-clock to voltage pulse divider > circuit on a single chip, but that's another story... > > - Gene > gstopp@fibermux.com Then Saul Stokes <n9540283@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu> >Hi Gene, I thought I would let you know that I would also be interested >in a circuit like this if you decided to think one up. There's probably >quite a few people actually. ...and another few on this list? Matthias