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Hi, I'm new on the list. In terms of looping I use a Vortex for spacy synth stuff, wierd noises, sweeps, etc. For this purpose I have found that morphing into a loop with a CV pedal works better than an abrupt switch between patches via the A/B switch. The result is a real smooth crossfade into or out of a loop. I can describe this in more detail if anyone is interested. Can any other looping device do this type of trick? And now a really important question which I've posted to several newsgroups with no good answers. I desperately need a pedal switch or button type device with which to tap tempo and send a master MIDI clock. Like the vortex tap tempo, but of course the vortex is not MIDI. Basically I want to be able to set up synth arpeggiations and LFO stuff synched to my drummer (rather than him synching to me- that ain't gonna happen). This is not a set it and leave it operation, rather I want to be able to change tempos on the fly during and between songs. The one device that I have used that will do it is an oberheim cyclone, but I'll spare you the reasons why I don't want to use the cyclone (great box, no reliability). I've been told a PCM80 will do it but that's a lot of money. I know the JamMan and Echoplex send MIDI clock based upon tapped loop lenghths. However from what little I know of the jamMAn , it's not such a straightforward operation- you can't just tap and change tempos in loop mode and for some reason the unit does not send clock in echo mode (but maybe I'm wrong here). Can anyone explain whether the the JamMan or Echoplex or maybe any other device might fit my needs? BOB.