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Hi Gang, Shameless plug: Back from mixing/mastering my new record (Silent Extinction Beyond the Zero) at David Torn's and I'm most excited. A truly inspiring thing to have Tony Levin playing on it, then having DT mix it! Wow. It'll be available mid-March, and you can check it out at http://www.musicpro.com/alchemy/ (the page will be updated by next week.) Or you can call 800-292-6932. OK, shameless plug over now... Michael wrote: >Sometimes I worry that too many musicians are trying to be artists, too >few >trying to be entertainers. Hmmm. Interesting thread. The artist/entertainer line is very fine. (not unlike the line between "clever and stupid"!!!) I'm reminded of the Torn/Trilok Gurtu show at the Bottom Line in New York a coupla years ago. Torn opened with his "pretty loud guitar" set: artsitically very cool. As for entertainment value, I suspect much of the crowd was kinda confused. Then Trilok's band came out and put on a very tight, well executed thoroughly "choreographed" set. The crowd responded quite enthusiastically. Especially to the vocal drumming by the entire band. I must admit I got a good chuckle out of it, and was really taken with how exceptional the chops level was. However: For the second show (two shows that night), I watched Torn's set, and could only sit through two tunes before I was compelled to go backstage and sit w/DT during Trilok's set. And BTW, I really like much of Trilok's music. It was the "entertainment" I couldn't accept. I simply wanted to hear the music and the musicians, and the rest got in my way. So, Dr. Mike: I'm guilty as charged. I guess we're now big-time enemies!!!