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Kim, In the Echoplex manual there is a mention of how to add to or remove loops that have been multiplied. Can't seem to figure it out. Can you explain how to remove multi 3 of a loop mutilplied 3 times and then how to add a different multi 3 back to that same loop, and does "next loop" command work to change to the next multi.of say a loop with 3 multi. Was that a hint that new softwear for the plex is coming soon , in the last post. thanks Kem McNair KemMc@ aol.con