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Hayden: Interesting post. One thought...it is difficult for one player to do theme and development with ONE looper. However...throw in more loopers... The Loop Doctor's employ four seperate loopers when we play live, plus a pair of Lexicon Vortex processors. We are trying not to incorporate any other technology at this point. Our manta currently is "know your loopers and your Vortex, and your PA..." Eat, drink and sleep your machines until you become like the military man who can break down the rifle in the dark. At that point the music and the technology should hopefully come together. One can fade multiple Jammen and Echoplexes in and out to explore variations on themes, etc. With two players, there is more time to develop stuff without dropping the ball. Also, another thing we've learned: silence and looping go together like the bee and the honey. Do not be afraid of silence. The audience wants a rest at times. Best, THE LOOP DOCTORS