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Jim complained: >I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but when my two Echoplexes >are >connected in stereo, there is complete audio degradation in the slave >unit in >five minutes. Nothing but noise. Yes, very sorry, a very simple bug: MIDI was not able to transfer the maximum feedback value. This might answer Gabriels question, too. >Five minutes goes by very fast. Its not a matter of time, actually, but of the number of repetitions passed. Long loops fade slower. > Oberheim has not been any help on this. Now I read that they are >shipping >units again. This just seems ridiculous to me if the problems have not >been >worked out. Definitally ridiculous. >The manual is also a nightmare of inconsistency and >misinformation. Any corrections to this? Well, I wrote a manual to the LOOP delay, that goes deeper, has a more functional structure and is all correct. Just the language and presentation is not that perfect. It takes some upgrade to fit for the Echoplex. I could do that somewhen. Even if Oberheim insists on Warrens version, we could put it on the page, right, Kim? >Sorry I seem so bitter I was much more so. Years of horror. >Kim's a lovely guy, but >I wish he'd stop concerning himself about Jamman mods and get on with this >upgrade. Its not him. Its Gibson that finally has to assume a long time ago worked out contract. And nobody understands what they are waiting for. It was a big loss of reputation and money for them, too. >Perhaps there are not many others in the same boat as me, so this >situation can drag on forever. I'm sure that most people buy just one >'Plex. Not at all, because there were many more bugs than the ones related to stereo. You may not have noted them, depending on your use. >If the update ever does come out, and you want to be amazed, slap another >Echoplex in your rig and check it out. Quick multitracking the likes of >which you have never seen. Stereo Echoplexes (with the mythical update >and >extra memory installed) are to music what Polaroid cameras are to >photography. Thank you! And MiqSk8 kindly apologized: > I thought that kim, matthias et al. had moved on to other jobs, no >longer working for obie. i also kinda inferred from the faq that this >thing >was basically in the can. That is what we had to do to make some money (the last we got after insisting heavily was about 7000$ in the end of 1995). There are no engineers at Oberheim or G-WIZ that understand the matter. The most important bugs I had fixed in January 95, soon after the first release. I screemed not to get reviews with the old version, but management prefered to read in Guitar Player about the bugs I already had fixed at the time! Then, Oberheim bosses came and went... I know I should not too open at this stage, but, hell, you need to have an idea. And if the problem does not get resolved soon, I might ask you suffering fellows to inject some energy into the case ;-) So far, lets keep cool. Without respect for clients and creators, money shall not flow for the leaders. Its a matter of (little) time and (much) awareness to cure us all. Bob, wanna trade? You must have had your own difficulties... Be well Matthias By the way: I was not posting for months and often behind in reading. I was working like crazy, and got out of balance... Soon I will reapear and send a bunch of old replies that I have to update yet and also some new stuff. We might talk more about plexing again... You Loopists been very helpfull to me in terms of return and comfort. Thanks.