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In a message dated 08/06/97 6:31:178:23, you write: << In a message dated 6/7/97 8:53:15 PM, Andy from the UK wrote: <<I'll be using some quite unusual Vortex patches.>> Why not post some example parameters...if you've got any to spare? dpc >> . Atmosphere B DejaVu B mix 64 64<<<<<<adjust mix if not using with a mixer output 64 64 modFXlevel 64 64 EchoFXlevel 64 64 morphAB 20 50 Envelope 2 1 echo 1-:- 3 4 echo 2-:- 4 4 feedback 1 61 64 feedback 2 1 3 rate 1 3 13 depth 1 33 33 resonance 1 45 45 rate 2 24 24 depth 2 16 55 resonance 2 2 64 Load these 2 into a pair of registers, start off with the "atmosphereB" patch and tap in about 2.5s to give a long polyrhythmic delay. When you morph the 3/8 & 2/4 loops that have built up seperately are taken and joined end to end to make a 7/8 loop which is heavily flanged( as is any further i/p, which isn't added to the loop). Of course this works better in stereo , the loop is panned at a different rate to the flange. Gradually the loop decays towards a simple pulse. This is probably my best patch so far, and was created with extensive use of the manual. Currently I'm working on a database for the vortex so that anyone can submit patches. I'll let you all know when it's running .(Any suggestions?) Andy (UK)