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>Somebody pleeeeez start an interesting thread about music...anything! I'd >do it but i'm too busy and exhausted to think at the moment. anything but >gear...... > >kim [Although gear is still referred to in the following note, I believe it is only superficially.] Hello Loopers, I see this as an opportunity to introduce myself. My name is Steve Cloutier. I'm a fingerstyle acoustic guitar player and maker. I've been on the "Loop List" for a couple of months but haven't contributed because frankly alot of the tech talk has been beyond me. Also my music may be a little more traditional (sedate?) than most other's on the list. I'm definitely not looking to push the musical envelope. I'll leave that to you younger folks. My gigging guitar is equipped with an L.R. Baggs pickup system that combines the output of a piezo transducer with that of an internal microphone. I always try to maintain the acoustic sound of my guitar. The first time I saw anyone loop was in 1989. I attended the American Fingerstyle Guitar Festival and saw acoustic guitarist, Pierre Bensusan. He had a small rack of gear and a whole slew of floor pedals. His delay unit at that time was made by T.C. Electronics w/ 40 sec of memory added.(I've noticed a JamMan also in his rack recently) ...but the music! During Pierre's set his music would sometimes build into this gorgeous crescendo of huge swirly, counterpoint, chorused guitars that filled the concert hall with a perceived depth of a symphony orchestra! His system must have been all stereo because you could definitely sense the movement of the chorus/flange when he used it. The experience totally twisted my head around. I lusted heartily after one of them gadgets! I can't remember what he had said the delay cost him at the time but it was alot more than I could've scraped together then or now. I've been using the JamMan (w/32 sec) for over two years now. In fact, I credit my JM for inspiring me to get out and gig again. Since getting one, I've written quite a few songs expressly for it. In most of my tunes, I try to minimize the repetitive nature of looping in any way that I can. I feel that some of my most satisying compositions use the longest loops. Some of them get dangerously close to the 32 second limit. (I would be happy with 60 seconds of memory.........I think. :) The first time I looped in public was on the radio. I did my usual solo guitar stuff and saved one JM song for last. When the time came, everything went fine. I put down my first layer. I had a couple of beats of free time before starting my next part so I looked up at the show's host (who was wearing headphones) and raised my hands as if to say, "look ma...no hands!" She was so startled by my guitar "playing itself" that she almost jumped out of her chair! I'm always pretty conservative when I'm recording a loop but get considerably more adventurous with my non-looped improvisations. (I'm sure you've all experienced the obvious clinker that comes back at you umpteen times --- a truly painful thing.) My improvisation has also improved 100% since working with the JM. I find that the experience of looping in concert to be both terrifying and exhilarating. Terrifying because of the potential of creating a musical train wreck but at the same time I find it very exhilarating to weave a whole orchestra of acoustic guitars. And for the first time I'm playing in an ensemble where all the members are on the same wavelength. :) It's definitely worth the terror. Sorry for writing a book. Steve Cloutier * * * * * Visit my wacky "Music Repository" at: http://www.means.net/~treefrog @..@ (----) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^