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> Why not just think up some new descriptive term if you don't like what's > available? For example, it wasn't so long ago that there was no music > called Industrial. But as soon as someone did label their music >Industrial, > it was pretty clear what they meant. > We don't go in the record store expecting to find a section called > "drumming," containing all the music with percussion used in it. Why do >we > hope for a section just for loop based music? I expect to find it >anywhere. very good points. someday, availability of such "labels" at retail outlets WILL be available depending on the depth of computerized cross-referencing. This, once again, is the crux of the issue. Anyone who is playing for more than personal pleasure needs to be aware that the world requires an appropriate interface in terms of categorization. If nothing else than for shorthand. The very first time someone used the word "Industrial", it MAY have referred to the textures it came to be associated with. It could have also been a description of assembly line structure without regard to specific style or music performed in obsolete factory buildings (like "House" being an offshoot of dance parties at the "Warehouse") or any one of a number of meanings. Industrial only had sonic meaning with time and consistency. It's unfortunate that there is so much bandwagoning of the use of popular cliches or styles of the day...it's also a convenient way of, hopefully, creating some sort of understanding when it comes to artforms that shouldn't NEED verbage. And I guess I'm being victimized by the overuse of the term jazz...too bad, cause it sure is useful when describing the improvisational aspect of what I frequently play...the music is directly tied to jazzrock fusion or the early 70s, freejazz of the 50s/60s, all the way back to the process and musical roles employed by the freer dixieland groups into the last century. I think it CAN be instructive to step back and take a look at where our contemporary roots are and be willing to see what we're doing from that perspective. If grunge or some alternative bands, for example, don't understand their own connection to punk, earlier garage metal bands or Chicago blues bands or wherever the case is, they're operating under delusions of originality. It may not matter to them personally, but they end up being ignorant of what their musical ancestors have done and how that history may instruct their own inspiration. I wish we didn't need the labels, original or otherwise, but, for better or worse, it's there. We can ignore them or twist them to our advantage. We don't have a choice about the their presence, only how we respond to it.