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Fantastik But today earlyer I had a talk with Rolf Spuler one of the pioneers of the Paradis Loop Delay (the grand father of the plex) and he told me that Oberheim was'nt shipping at all for the two last years and that the plex story was almost dead) Would Kim get us a litle more infos about the future distibution policy of oberheim (there should be a serious backlog) are some units going to arrive to us in europe before another long wait If I found a used plex today is it worth the wait (hardware wise) long live Aurisis Research and welcome the LoopIII V5.0 Claude Voit