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ok, maybe this will help to end the 'Age' thread: The average age of us is 33.4 (that is, the average age of the 48 loopers who have their bio on our website, and specified their age). <g> btw, I'm 43. ___________ Michael Peters http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters HOP - Fractals in Motion ..."the only screen saver you'll ever want" http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/hop.htm Support the Warr Guitar Defense Fund http://home.earthlink.net/~greendog/warrfund.html