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I find it hard to take offence at really any of the flaming that has go on in this thread... I am just a bit surprised. I don't know about you guys, but I spent a lot of time in career(?) as a musician hearing "that's not music" both directed at me and towards some of the bands that I listen to. I find it hard to believe that my experiences are not shared with all who subscribe to this list. Anyhow, I think there was an interesting thought a while back that has been all but ignored, that being the idea that a DJ fills the role of a conductor. My own experiences with DJ's (my best friend is one, and he was dropping Terminator X style scratching and breakbeats into my imitation Cocteau Twins songs five or six hears ago) have been regarding them as sort a cross between a guest soloist and rhythm box but I like the idea of having one person have a control over the basic rhythmic and harmonic direction of a performance. It would be nice to see/hear something like a fusion of Glen Branca and DJ Yella. I don't find much attraction to electronica in the same way that I am not particularly atracted to solo singer/songwriter acts, or solo instrumental acts (with many noticable acceptions, of course). I have a tendency to really enjoy the interaction of a small group of people. This is also how I prefer to make my own music (probably no coincidence). Case in point- I guess at this point I have seen DJ Spooky five or six times (only once on purpose... it seems everywhere I go, there he is) and was never really to blown away by him untill I saw Spooky and Lee Renaldo (of Sonic Youth) play a set together before the Panasonic show in NYC. The performance had its ups and downs, but was, I think the freshest thing I had seen out of either one of them for a while. BTW: one of the new electronic folk of I have seen around is called, I think, DJ Singh. I saw her once at a show show with DJ Spooky and she totally blew me away. She layed down a sensual groove (something missing in most of the machine music I hear these days, be it electronica or R&B) with focused (also uncommon these days) bursts of ambient noise and/or SY-esque skronk. Really good stuff. Anybody heard from her? I have no idea where she is from. Trevor