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I hate to do this, but... I know that I need to tred carefully here, so I will choose my sentiments as thoughfully as possible.. First, let me say to Kim and Matthius thank you for an unbelievably focused and clever piece of equipment. You have single handedly renewed my interest in playing, and the possibilities of "guitar as orchestra". Second, I should clarify my personal background. I am a professional, working Recording Engineer and Tech in Los Angeles. I am also guitarist, guitar builder and electronic tinkerer going on 25 yrs. Please know that my point of view does not mean I am "flaming", just observing. Third, I have experience, in the past, working within a large bureauracratic organization, as I am sure many people on this list do. What I am trying to say is I have sympathy for all parties involved. But most of all Andre. I thought about emailing him personally (we have exchanged email in the past) but I arrogantly felt the list might want to read this too. I have been without my Echoplex for about 8 months total of the 3yrs I have owned it. The first round was thermal problems fixed gratis at the factory in NoCal. A month and a half down. After I got it back I performed the resistor change outs detailed on the web page in an effort to bring down the noise floor(a software noisegate!?!?). This was a help. The second bout was an ongoing distortion in the recorded program material. Dean Fouts recommended an authorized repair shop in LA to fix this, to save the time & hassle of sending it to the factory. These guys turned out to very slow & took forever to get the documentation from Oberheim. They didn't pursue it at all, & I had to badger the factory to get the schematics to this shop!! Turned out to be the output IC's(no relation to the mod). Another 4 months and $200.00 lost. I was out of town on biz right after I got it back this time, and also in the process of finishing my rig, so I didn't use it for a bit. When I finished my rig & fired it up, guess what? No output from the Echoplex at all!!! Back to the shop in LA since I figured it might be related. after 2 months and no phone call from these guys, they give up and sent it to Oberheim without even telling me. Right around this time Andre started his posts. So as you can understand, I'm dissapointed. I am going to have to get something to replace my Echoplex(probobly a PCM80-yikes!). So let me make a few points here. This is a CONSUMER piece of gear. It is very cheaply powered, with a flimsey chassis, and a -10db input/output section, with unbalanced 1/4 jacks. this means from a gain stage point of view it is relativly incompatible with the gear in my rack, and any gear in any pro studio. Kim has stated in the past he didn't want the price to exclude potential consumers from buying this product. Understood, but it relagates this to being a CONSUMER piece of gear. It exhibits all the problems of consumer gear. I personally own pro gear that has never broken down, and the studios I work at depend on pro gear to work consistantly and for long periods of time. We have outboard gear that stays on for months at a time, year after year with NO problems. What I'm trying to say is that I shouldn't expect the Echoplex to be what it is not. The big problem is that not many pieces of gear come close to doing what the Echoplex does!!! I am trying to finish my record, and another artist's CD that I am producing, engineering and playing on. Being without my echoplex has been a huge pain, and I can wait no longer to get mine back. God forbid I should want an upgrade! That will be another couple of months I guess. So Andre's experiences are not isolated. I don't blame anyone in particular for this nonsense. Dean Fouts has been trully helpful. Chalk it up to Oberheim/Gibson's bureaucracy and a product that didn't meet my expectations. Lesson learned on my part. I apologize for any hurt feelings or for not being cheery, but in professional situations this kind of track record sinks products. I'd hate to see that happen to the Echoplex. Eric R. Fischer