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>Kim wrote: >The OB Strummer though, I never could figure out why anyone would want that... ----------------- Speaking of these OB midi boxes, do any of you have experience with the Oberheim Drummer? The description I see says that the drum patterns in the OB will respond to an audio input, say a guitar or bass, and create fills, etc. Is it musical? I miss playing with a drummer. I don't enjoy creating patterns on my Alesis HR-16 (though I like the drum sample sounds), and besides, they just repeat the program. No dynamic response to live performance. If the OB would control my Alesis, play a basic beat, and respond to what I play in some directed manner, this might feel more like working with a live drummer. Re Jamman availability and cost, I saw an internet ad for a Jamman for over $700 yesterday. The copy said "it's a steal" at that price. While this price is clearly absurd, I hope there isn't a trend of price upflex on the used market for the Jamman. I sold mine, with full memory for $250 this year. The world needs an inexpensive dedicated, HiFi loop box for the people who would never think of spending the money for an EDP, but would still have the time of their lives with a looper. The guy I sold mine to never expressed any interest in loopers, until I gave him the Jamman to try. After 1 night with it he was sold! bret