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I would like to unanimously agree with Kim's post about Mr Bungle. Fortunately, I saw them in brisbane a year ago, and the show was crowded, but not a total sellout. (Who would have thought living in Brisbane would have it's perks...) The crowd was a diverse sample to say the least. In a strange way Mr Bungle are at the same time the antithesis of music and the icon of music. Also, like a lot of loopers around the place, they use a lot of interesting techniques to get their sound. The mix of sound I experienced at the Bungle concert was so clear, that I could hear every nuance from every musician. Not a small feat considering what they played and how often they do a musical about-face. If you have a chance to see them, do. BTW, they do a great cover of "Tower of Strength"!. I may as well throw in what I am listening to at the present......... Peter Gabriel - Best of (Will I ever stop listening to it?) I just purchased "EVE", but have yet to play with it... King Crimson - Great Deceiver Miles Davis - Bitches Brew Fripp and Eno - No Pussyfooting Tackhead David Bowie - Scary Monsters and Earthling Gorecki- Miserere Laurie Anderson - Bright Red Sepultura - Chaos AD Doug Anthony All Stars - ICON Regurgitator - Tu Plang (Kong foo sing - the tasty biscuit) Things I am looking at a lot...... Clouds (They loop too...) Computer Games (An interesting way of looping has occurred in newer computer games, the use of CD audio allows music to be played of the CD at certain times in the game. Music may be triggered by where you are in the game, or whatever. The end result is a whole lot of short, discreet pieces of music, that are all different, but will all flow on from the last (If it is good). Quite a challenge. A game worth checking out for just being beautiful is "The Neverhood", it has refreshing earthy music that makes you wonder why these ideas don't occur to you before) Jamie Lack jlack@auran.com http://www.auran.com