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I have just spent several sessions playing into an incredibly short delay (500 ms, 100% feedback). I play synths, not guitars. Obviously, a longer, "playable" delay is on my wish list, but for the time being I'm having fun. To make up for the relatively short loop length, I find myself playing a longer phrase over and over again by hand. My favorite trick so far is to get a sound with a percussive click or spit right at the beginning and play it in time with the loop over and over. The click "smears" into something really interesting. I read once that the human ear perceptrons use the first 1/20th of a second of a sound to assess a new sound; is it a predator? Is the microwave dinner finished cooking? Is my girlfriend pounding on the doors? I think that when this 1/20th of a second is messed with, it has odd effects on people. Also, the looping makes what the brain might initially detect as an important sound more of a background sound as time goes on. Play a pattern of clicks and pops that really grab you into a loop. Then, wait for the sheer quantity of repetitions to allow your mind to let go of it. Blur the loop into something less aggressive -- perhaps with more bass tones. Later, play the inital pop/click pattern back into the loop again, you will evoke an "AHA!" response. Any other things like these I should try? Warning: the rest has little to do with looping: > Also, vintage ART gear can be easily modified using my Mark UNuglyator > Re-edifice kit (TM) OK, it's just black electrical tape, but it works > wonders. I apply such treatment to everything, regardless of it's inital beauty. I suffer from this horrible disease where if I see words in front of me, I can't play music. Everything gets taped over except for a the small words that label the useful controls. Glad to see that black tape is a fetish others have as well. (Joe Miklojcik)