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At 07:28 AM 1/24/98 -0500, you wrote: >on the definitive take,if everyone recorded the loop from start to finish then >made a cd of all the different takes they would all sound the >same,would'nt >they?It would only be different at the time it was listened to and jammed >with....oh well too early,i need more java(coffee that is)jeff Hmmm. Let's consider 2 musicians, A and B. They are playing over a 10 second loop. We'll call musician A's first loop A1. second A2 etc. Now if both musicians are playing over the same 10-sec toop (or drum pattern or whatever), the structure would go something like this: A plays A1 ten seconds later B starts playing B1 in sync over A's A1 A is simultaneously playing A2 over A1 ten seconds later A is now playing A3 over A1+A2+B1. B is playing B2 over A1+A2 etc. This could be extended to C, D etc. Everyone would hear a different version; A would hear A1 A2 A3+B1 A4+B2 etc B gets A1+B1 A2+B2 etc In a 3-way jam: A: A1 A2 A3+B1 A4+B2+C1 etc B: A1+B1 A2+B2+C1 A3+B3+C2 etc C: A1+B1+C1 A2+B2+C2 A3+B3+C3 etc In order to prevent anyone leading, A could be the click/drum track. Michael