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Hello everyone, Thanks to Kim for his time and patience with me. How about if the echoplex pedalboard was designed to contain 9 extra buttons that would access loops 1 thru 9.I believe this would solve this tap up or down to get to a desired loop problem.You could have buttons 1 thru 9 on the top row and the record,undo ect. buttons on the bottom row(or vice versa)of the pedalboard.This would save alot of stage space.I really would love to get an echoplex but its looking like I will have to spend around $885 bucks(echoplex,pedalboard and a$100 for a midi pedal that will work) to get the echoplex to work for me the way I need it to.Or mabey you and Oberheim could design a program change friendly echoplex?Now this would be cool then I could use my ancient ada midi pedals.Till then I gess I'l keep looping with my jamman. Again thanks for your time and patience Brian McKenzie In a message dated 98-01-25 19:28:13 EST, << I use the Ground Control MIDI foot controller and this same problem is the reason i have used my Jamman the last three years instead of the Echoplex. I have been waiting for this upgrade in hopes that i will finnally be able to jump from Loop 5 to Loop 2 (for example) with one push of my Ground Control. I can do this with the Jamman from Lexicon (a company not known for it's MIDI know-how). >>