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VORTEX SPECIFIC! This is not the loop email you're looking for. Move along. Greg Hogan wrote: >It seems like your machine is confused. Try resetting it as >follows:Warning! This will erase user registers and replace them with >the presets. Thanks, Greg. It was worth a shot. Actually, before I did this, I did a little further investigation than before, and found that things were not as bad as I had thought. Whereas I had thought that all A->B copies were bad (based on 2 out of 2 samples), further investigation showed that it seems to be limited to certain patches. Resetting it did not, however, fix the problem. If someone else with a Vortex wants to check if this is a general Vortex bug, not specific to my machine, that would be cool. (Either one seems plausible at the moment.) The most consistent behavior is as follows: Turn the volume down on whatever the Vortex is feeding Copy PRESET 14A to register 14B (you'll destroy your 14B... you could try a different register of course, but it _seems_ like it has to be to a B register) Turn the knob away and back to 14 (leaving B selected). At least nine times out of ten that produces continuous high-volume noise (self-oscillation?) on my Vortex. Sean Barrett