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Me: >>> It's sad to say, but I really can't see a lot of these shipping in the >UK. >>> There hasn't been any innovation in UK guitar (OK, at least not much) since >>> Andy Summers arrived in the early 80s. People will pay for gear in Britain >>> - just not much that's been invented less than 30 years ago. You don't >>> need an EDP to play Oasis/Blur/etc/etc/etc..... Kim: >you know, it just baffles me how looping gets so associated with guitar. >(at least in some circles...) The sound going into the loop can be >anything, where do people get the idea that its just a guitar effect? >mystery..... As I say, I tend to listen to gtr-music, and associate the gtr with looping, because I'm a guitarist and that's the "mindset" I'm in. I used to listen to a lot more synth stuff before I took up ye olde plank. And UK "mainsteam" _is_ a lot more gtr-centric - I've found far more fellow guitarists in my travels than fellow synthists (yes, I had a Casio VZ1 for about 5 years). I do try to keep up with hte scene - if reading Sound on Sound counts as such - but sadly I will always belong to some strings on wood. I do listen to a lot of music form c1500-1600, but still think of the lute as a "guitar"... I have learnt some of that stuff in loop format btw. It's ideal. However, my wife is trying to persuade me to sell my Blade (owned 10 years - my baby!) and buy a Stick - "less competition"..... >I think this is why I stopped listening to guitar oriented music. >Everything I hear, no matter what the style and who the player, leaves me >with a feeling of "haven't I heard this already?" I'd say the new stuff is trailing off, but there are always players who inspire me - both Bill Frizell and David Torn (Yay dave!) are doing _new_ stuff that still has atmosphere and melody (ah, whither melody?). Some "old dinos" do produce great stuff - eg Fripp's (can I say that? :) League of Crafty's (hands up, participants!). Show of hands is one of my most prized CD's, and it's all on acoustics!!! And finally, a big word to the guys on this list - hearing Matthias' music, or California Andre, (and others! ond on other instruments too!) shows me just how much more there is to do on guitar. Bravo!! >even older than my 28 years, Surely "younger?" Been there, done that? The music for Generation Next? :) Michael PS An idea - innovation on the guitar usually follow as a reaction to the unpopularity of the instrument - eg. the early 80's, when we were advised to give up out strings and take to keys. At hte moment the guitar is in resurgence and everyone sounds like the Stones/Beatles/Kinks/Beach Boys. Perhaps with so much simple stuff going on, experimenters (BF, DT, Charle Hunter, Phil Degruy) get drowned out..... PPS Please forgive mis-spellings. I have a cold. ;)